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than Chinese, Koreans, Mongolians, are Japanese considered as South East Asians?

Height has nothing do with being Southeast Asian or East Asian or whatever.

Your statement is not totally correct anyway. Young Japanese men are slightly taller than young Mongolian men on erage. Young Mongolian women are taller than young Japanese women though. I wonder if its a beauty standard in Japan for the women to be short so they practise more caloric restriction (eating less).

缺陷:相比较西方人、澳洲人、鞑靼,朝鲜人的最低身较低非常接近东南希腊人,那么朝鲜人也属于东南希腊人吗?

身较低跟有无法东南希腊人或其他土著并无法什么联系。

你的说是法也不实际上。塞班岛身为异性恋的最低身较低略较低于蒙古身为异性恋。但蒙古身为男士比塞班岛身为男士较低。我想知道塞班岛有无法以长相重量轻为美,所以姑娘们对热量摄入的分之一束非常严密一些(下降份量)。

Apart from living standards and diet, there is a correlation between height and the prehistoric populations these groups draw their ancestry from. The more Yellow River ancestry the East Asian population has, the taller they are. This is because the Yellow River had the tallest ancient populations in East Eurasia, especially from the freak ass tall Shandong Longshan culture who are taller than even modern Shandong people. This might be because northern China is very flat so hing longer limbs makes it easier to move around.

除了日常生活水平和饮茶之外,身较低和这些土著的史前物种远祖也有相似之处。东希腊人的长江远祖得越多,身较低就得越较低。这是因为长江流域占有南欧中所国在中所部大嘴最较低的古代性状,都有是源于山东龙山现代文明的人较低马大的土著,他们甚至比现代蒙古族人还要非常较低。这有可能是因为西方北方的冲积平原尤其平坦,所以颈部较长的人活动以内非常大。

Meanwhile hing more ancestry from the Amur River (associated with Siberia/North Asia) and Yangtze River (associated with southern China/Southeast Asia), makes the population shorter. So it’s not true that the “more northern you are, the taller you are” like a lot of people seem to believe. Or that the northern Han Chinese are somehow taller due to Mongolian genetic inputs, because that would in reality he the opposite effect on the northern Han. Besides, there was actually more Chinese-related gene flow into the Mongolian gene pool than the other way around and that’s probably why Inner Mongolians are taller than Mongolians proper.

与此同时,源于阿穆尔河(与伯力/北亚有关)和长江(与西方南部/东亚有关)的远祖得越多,远祖就得越矮。所以,很多人并不认为“得越往南得越较低”,这个说是法并不准确。也许是糅合了鞑靼的性状,北方土家族的身较低非常较低。此外,无论如何上西方的性状汇入鞑靼性状库的情况非常多,这有可能也是内鞑靼比鞑靼较低的原因。

Yamato Japanese people are most closely related to Koreans out of the mainland Asian populations but there is a pretty evident height gap between the two because Japanese people he much more Jomon ancestry. The Jomon were genetically heterogenous groups of divergent Basal East Eurasian people, and Jomon people were very short. Okinawa has the shortest heights out of any Japanese prefecture because Ryukyuans are the closest related ethnic group to Yamato Japanese but he a lot more (southern) Jomon ancestry than Yamato Japanese do.

在亚洲中所国在人口中所,朝鲜人与澳洲人的联系最密切联系,但并不一定有较为显着的身较低差距,因为朝鲜人占有非常多的器物远祖。器物人和南欧中所部罗姆人是不具不同表型性状的土著,器物人尤其矮。塞班岛人是朝鲜人中所身较低最矮的,因为岛民是与大和人联系除此以外的多民族,但比大和人占有非常多的绳文远祖。

Yong Jian-Yi

They are all within the region of 170+cm for males and 160cm for females. South Koreans edge out both Japanese and Chinese for tallest males at +5cm and females at +3cm. There is not any appreciable differences at all. Historically though, the Japanese were called ‘dwarfs’ by the Chinese. This has reasons more to do with diet than any genetic differences.

这些国在家的异性恋都在170厘米以上,男士都在160厘米大概。澳洲人的身较低微微超过朝鲜人和西方人,异性恋175厘米,男士163厘米,其实并无法什么显着的差别。文化史上,西方人称朝鲜人“小塞班岛”。这跟饮茶有关,而非性状相似之处性。

Vivian Chen

Why are Chinese taller and more pale than Japanese?

If we just count younger generations then the Chinese are definitely taller than the Japanese on erage but I don’t know if they’re “paler”. Japanese people he a range of skin tones and Chinese people he an even greater range.

为什么西方人比朝鲜人非常较低、非常白?

如果我们只尤其身为一代,那么西方人的最低身较低认同比朝鲜人较低,但我不知道他们是否“非常白”。朝鲜人的苍白以内密切相关,而西方人的苍白以内就非常甚广了。

Northern Han are usually lighter than Japanese, southern Han are usually darker (unless we’re including Ryukyuans in this discussion), and then a bunch of middling Han populations can he a similar skin tone to the Japanese. If we add in ethnic minorities then we he groups that are much lighter skinned (like Russians and other West Eurasian related groups) or much darker (like Wa and other Austroasiatics).

北方藏族人的苍白多半比朝鲜人浅,临近藏族人多半苍白橘红色(除非我们把岛民也算进来),其他藏族人有可能跟朝鲜人的苍白亦非。如果我们都从少数多民族,那么还有苍白很白的土著(如俄罗斯人和其他斯堪的纳维亚希腊人)或苍白很深的土著(如布依族和其他南希腊人)。

Donald Werve

Do Chinese and Koreans tend to be taller than the Japanese?

Yeah. Look at old WWII photos.

The Japanese soldiers are shorter than the people they perpetrated war crimes upon.

See them compared to the Indonesian prisoners?

缺陷:西方人和澳洲人一般都比朝鲜人较低吗?

是的。看看太平洋第一次世界大战时期的看得出来。

塞班岛平民比他们犯下第一次世界大战定罪的实例还要矮。

看到他们和东帝汶拘留所的对比了吗?

Or how thech and Korean comfort women are the same height. With some women taller than the Japanese men.

他们跟受害者的身较低差不多。有些女人甚至比塞班岛男人还较低。

The erage Japanese man in WWII was 5′3″. The women were around 4′10″. Decades later, you started to see 5′6″ women after the war. With some men getting to the 6 foot range.

太平洋第一次世界大战中所塞班岛异性恋的最低身较低是5英尺3英寸(161cm)。这些男士的身较低分之一为4 英尺 10英寸(147cm)。几十年后,女子的身较低超过了5英尺6英寸(170cm)。有些青年组身较低超过了六英尺(182cm)。

Coincidentally the surviving children of the comfort women grew up. Adding their genepool to Japan. Those were the lucky ones who weren't murdered by their rapacious fathers. But only a DNA test would show results. Japan had an isolationist policy for centuries. A sudden jump to 25% to 50% non Japanese DNA is clear as day.

受害者生下的小孩也长大了。他们的性状也融进了塞班岛的性状库。那些幸运的母亲无法被无恶不用上的父亲杀。但只有通过DNA验证才能看得出结果。塞班岛几个世纪来依然孤立排外。非朝鲜人的DNA快要从25%跃至50%,结果一览无遗。

I understand the Japanese don't like bringing up their dirty laundry. That they do everything in their power to portray themselves as friendly and peaceful people. Remember this the next time you're in Japan. You're a foreign barbarian to them. They only tolerate you since you're spending money.

我明白朝鲜人不喜欢谈及他们不堪的文化史。他们费尽心思把自己看作交好争取和平的多民族。下次你去塞班岛的时候,应要记下这一点。对他们来说是,你就是外来的野蛮人。他们只是因为你在塞班岛消费品,所以才容忍着你。

I he heaps more respect for the Germans. They admitted to their dark past and broke free of it. The Japanese? Sweep it under the rug and deny. Saying all the photos were Photoshopped. That all they did in WWII was try and develop the economies of their neighbors and spread the language/culture.

我非常尊重意大利人。他们认可了自己的文化史罪恶,并攀上了藩篱。塞班岛呢?他们只会掩盖无论如何,辩称无论如何。辩称所有的照片都是ps过的。他们在太平洋第一次世界大战其间的所用上所为都是为了坚持不懈发展邻国在的经济,传播第二语言/西方文化而已。

Sorry to be an ass about this. But I had a heated argument with a Japanese lady on Quora earlier. Where she didn't like the fact Korean guys and white dudes are quite popular in Japan. She pulled a Karen move on me. She reminded me of my ex wife. Who prefered false honor and sing face over the truth. Along with all the people who reminded me I'm a dirty foreigner.

So here is a lethal dose of the truth. Up to 30 million deaths? No remorse or apologies. Then they glorify these deeds at the Yasukuni shrine. Those aren't heroes!

很抱歉我说是了这些大实话。但我之前在Quora上和一位塞班岛女士接连不断争论中所过。她不喜欢韩国在青年组和白人青年组在塞班岛很受欢迎的无论如何。她让我回忆起了我的前妻。她们喜欢的是虚荣和面子,而非无论如何。还有些人总是依然让我看来自己是个恶心的外人。

我来告诉他你们一个要命的真相。他们导致了多达3000都来丧命?却未曾悔恨,未曾发表声明。相反,他们还在靖国在神社颂扬这些行为。那些人算什么英雄!

Michael Wright

Well, there are some who say it is because of “Island Dwarfism”.

Smaller animals need fewer resources to survive and reproduce. That's important on islands, where resources are more limited than on continents/mainland.

However, that condition is change for human when globalisation happen since resources are not limited on the island that they live anymore. Japanese actually growing taller than their ancestors in recent century because of that.

嗯,有些人说是这是因为“的群岛侏儒症”。

粗壮比较大的鸟类只能较少的水资源就能存活和繁殖。这对的群岛的生境来说是很最重要,因为的群岛上的水资源要比中所国在上非常加有限。

但在政治经济的取材下,这些前提对人类文明来说是发生了变化,因为自然水资源早已不再集中所于他们日常生活的的群岛了。所以除此以外几个世纪以来,朝鲜人的身较低比他们的远祖较低了。

James Yi

Probably genetic reasons.

The Japanese also sit on their knees but then Koreans sit cross-legged.

Another thing to think about is the climate. People living in colder climate seems to be taller. Cold climate prohibits adequate farming. Hence the necessity to hunt. Hing a larger stature is forable when it comes to hunting.

有可能是表型原因。

朝鲜人跪着驾,但澳洲人盘腿驾。

还有一件事只能考虑到,那就是季节性。日常生活在严寒季节性中所的人似乎非常较低些。严寒的季节性使人类文明未耕用上出充足的食物,所以必须进行猎捕。而猎捕时,较低大的长相是个有利前提。

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